Vancouver Women Are The Pickiest in Canada?
A recent study from an online dating site, probably OkCupid, say’s that after Montreal and Ottawa, Vancouver women are the pickiest in Canada. Toronto was the least picky of the major cities followed by Calgary.
This doesn’t surprise me. I’ve been teaching out of Vancouver for over half a decade, and I’ve never found a harder city to land a date with a local. The same goes for most of my eligible friends. Most of the guys who find dates by approaching women, find those with women from out of town: Recent imports, tourists, or drunken hookups with travellers.
Why are Vancouver women so closed to new dating experiences?
I’ve found this city to be very social-circle centric. Often, the tipping point of a woman’s availability depends on how many of her friends know or like you. Being introduced rather than approaching is the best option. Here, status is king, even if that’s within a small social circle.
Lots of feminists. Liberal rape culture and pc hysteria are stuffed down our throats by the media. Women are basically terrified of meeting strange men because of the rampant anti-male propaganda. Some approach pisses off a female and it’s blasted on the front page of every media outlet for a week.
Vancouver is expensive, so to save a few bucks people stay close to home, rather than go out and spend $50 on a couple drinks and french fries. Rent is astronomical, and we have little disposable income for things like meeting new people. It’s cheaper to go to your friends house and watch Netflix or have an invite only bbq.
The nightlife just can’t compare to Toronto or Montreal. Go spend a week in either of those cities and you’ll not miss long lines for $20 entrance to clubs that are just big squares with a bar that serves $8 Pilsner bottles. People just don’t have as much fun when they go out, so are less likely to feel romantic towards new people. It’s just not that fun to go out here unless you have a fun social circle to go with.
We’re tech savy, and every pretty woman has a smart phone. Meeting new guys outside her social circle is as easy as installing Tinder and picking the best looking of the thirty offers a day. Why bother to meet some guy who hit on you at the bar or approached you on the street when you have dozens of dicks on speed dial?
We’re soft and cowardly. Vancouver rarely experiences major financial crisis, earthquakes, floods, or crime waves. While this is awesome, the safety makes us just mentally lazy. We lack that east coast hustle that comes from the dream that is summer after a long, bitter ice storm.
Vancouver lacks the edginess that draws the adventurous spirit.
The downtown core is not connected to the areas that most people live, like Burnaby, East Van, and Richmond; but downtown Vancouver is where the fun happens. So, unlike Toronto which has a large downtown core and a high number of residents living there, girls here often have to drive or commute downtown, which is time-consuming and expensive. In Montreal and Toronto I’ve not had the problem of getting women to meet me for coffee, because the city is centralized.
People just aren’t interested in meeting new people. I don’t know why. In every other city I’ve been to, when you meet new people, they ask for your Facebook, or invite you to future social events. People here just don’t seem to do that.
Vancouver is not a student city. Unlike Toronto and Montreal which have large, centralized universities that spill culture outwards from inside, the youth culture here is detached, with campuses spread out over long distances from the core.
People in Vancouver are often artists, actors, musicians, writers, yogi’s. Hollywood North has a major draw for introverts looking to become the next big thing. This means if you’re just a common guy, with a normal job, your not going to be attractive to the social climber.
Vancouver is super lazy. It’s the laid back atmosphere of pot smoking, blogging hippies that spills over into the social scene. People just don’t have the energy to commute downtown to meet new people. And they’ll probably be boring anyway. It’s way easier to curl up and watch the rain through the glow of your tumblr.
It rains, a lot. And that makes going out really…wet
There are lots of good looking, talented and available men. It’s just the law of supply and demand. When I lived in Winnipeg I could have a date with new women every day, simply because anyone with ambition or talent moved away from Winnipeg as soon as they could. This left a major draught in the dating pool, and women were far less picky. It took me one week and three dates to find a hot girlfriend—but I still didn’t want to live there.
Vancouver is entitled. Always has been. The chant of, “World’s most liveable city,” “World’s most beautiful women,” “World’s fittest city,” has been echoed by the media so often that most people actually believe it. And when you’re constantly told you’re #1, it’s going to affect people’s attitude to meeting people who might not be as #1 as they’d like.
The Solution?
- Increase your status and social circle. Go to more networking events, say yes to that party invite, go to the salsa class. Host your own parties. Start a band.
- Date women from out of town. There are plenty of Asian, Latin and European’s moving to Vancouver, and they want to meet new people as it’s part of their travel adventure.
- Increase the number of women you approach. Play the hardcore numbers game. Approach ten a day minimum until you have five or more girls to choose from. Odds are three will flake, and maybe one will see you twice or more.
- Lower your own standards and go for the women you’re not really that attracted to, but have nice personalities.
Vancouver has a lot going for it: Nice weather (when it’s not raining), beautiful ocean beaches, sexy women, mountain hikes an hour outside of the core. But if you’re not a natural extrovert who loves social networking, and you want to date an abundance of beautiful, socially open women, you’d be better off on the east coast, or a country where your market value is significantly higher.
If you’re set on dating the best Vancouver women, just be prepared to improve yourself in every area of your life. That’s not such a bad goal anyway.
You’re right on the money Tony. Great place to live if you have the lifestyle and cash…not so great if you want to date the local women. I’ll be improving myself but it won’t be to chase around local women. There’s way more pleasing female company to be had from international women for much less work and attitude.
I was having dinner with my European girlfriend the other night, and she casually mentioned that all her ex-pat friends had left the country and it was difficult to meet local girls for friendship or even a girls night out. Now, she is sweet, nice, generous, great sense of humour and should have no trouble making friends.
I asked her, “why’s that?” and her reply was “because the girls here in Vancouver have attitude and are snobby. They think they’re so much better than everybody else.” I smirked and nodded my head knowingly. It seems this not only applies to guys trying to pick them up, but even female friendships. I’ve also heard this similar comment from women from Mexico, Colombia, Brazil and many other places. There is definitely a theme here.
“Not nice” were her exact words before I prodded her to explain more.
On the internet it says Vancouver is the worst place in the world to meet women. Many beautiful women , yes , Playboy Centre Folds galore , however , Vancouver women are scared. They , ( like everyone else in Vancouver ) are suspicious. People in Van are on edge ( laid back appearance ) , they are polite is only reason they’d give you the time of day.
You are totally correct , Tony. I hate to say it , but Vancouver women are stuck – up & wary ( to a fault ). It’s the end of the tracks here & Vancouver women exemplifie that. Com’on girls , lighten up !
I recall an online article from 3-4 years ago- I tried to find it to post here but couldn’t- interviewing the WOMAN owner of a matchmaking and dating service.
SHE said that her biggest problem by far was trying to convince nearly all of the women customers that they’ll never find the guy they are seeking.
They need to tone back their “list” of the stuff they demand,as what they want exists in less that 1% of the guys.
I can guess that to be things like tall.dark,fit,place in Whistler,place in West Van,owns a large business,wants 4 babies and to be retired by 40 etc etc.
Her second biggest problem-after convincing them of this reality,is keeping them on that lowered expectations path.
I don’t think it’s that hard. Thanks to the things I’ve learned from this blog (thx a lot Tony), I’ve had great results with girls in Vancouver and I am broke, OK looking and my conversational skills are average. But I played the numbers game like there’s no tomorrow and I aimed high (very hot girls). I have a sales background, and that helps too.
I think Afganistan it’s a much worse place to meet women. I am from Eastern Europe and I find it easier here than there.
There’s also the exotic appeal of a foreigner.
I traveled in Australia/NZ and almost got mobbed.
In Eastern Europe,women would walk up to me in cafes and just start talking,and offer to go out for coffee,walk,show me around,etc.
Yes, very stuck up women. They may be hot with amazing bodies but you wouldn’t want to spend time with them, they haven’t the IQ or personality to relate to the large numbers of highly intelligent, immensely talented VFX professional guys in Vancouver. They really want to date a mirror.
The problem is almost all the high IQs in society are male, it’s just natural selection at work, men are more spread across the spectrum while women are more grouped around the average. with a more diverse group of males natural selection has more to work with and the best selected from a spread out group are going to be better or more intelligent than those selected from an average group.
This leaves a segment of the male population without intellectual equals and seeing as highly intelligent women tend to date dumb guys for control-freak/insecurity reasons it makes it all the harder to find a suitable relationship.
It’s one of the main reasons I left. I came here from the UK and have never come across such a tragic social experience as talking to women in Vancouver. It’s also the only place on the planet – and i’ve lived in a lot of cities – where I’ve been asked how much I earn, what drive and do I own the place I live in.
Back to the UK and enjoying the flirting and banter with adult women who actually get that it’s fun !